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Scott Walters's avatar

As you can see from your comments, people hate it when someone says something they like isn't art. But I think Collinwood makes a very interesting point, interesting enough for me to request a copy of his book from the library.

To say something is "amusement" isn't an insult, any more than saying something is a sandwich or a mammal. As a theater professor who taught courses in dramatic literature, I can tell you that it is darn near impossible to teach a play that falls in the "amusement" category, because it was created to be an experience, not something for later reflection. So a play like, say, Michael Frayn's "Noises Off" is absolutely brilliant, but there isn't much to talk about once you get past "That one moment when the character did this thing was hilarious." And Frayn wrote it to be so -- it's the nature of farce.

It's not an insult to say something is amusement.

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Theodore Whitfield's avatar

Thanks for this very thoughtful post. But I fear that I am too stupid to understand the distinction between "art" and "amusement".

Is Beethoven's 9th symphony an example of "art"? Most people would agree. What about a Bach fugue? This is very abstract music, and it doesn't clearly express any identifiable emotion. Does that mean that it's not "art"?

Is there any popular music that satisfies your definition of "art"?

Is *Kind of Blue* "art"? How about "Bitches Brew"? What about "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" or "Dark Side of the Moon"? I'm pretty sure that if you asked the people involved in these recording they all would have taken them very seriously, and would have objected to the suggestion that this was mere ephemeral "amusement".

I'm especially puzzled by your suggestion that Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together Again" is somehow not "art" according to your definition:

"An artist has a different motive, an attempt to express an emotion in a way intelligible to herself."

Do you think that maybe Taylor Swift was doing this when she wrote the song? What do you think Taylor Swift would say about your characterization?

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